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Advice on birdbaths...hope this helps some

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ladystressout
Joined: 8/03/2003
Location: Georgetown,Ohio
Posts: 578
Posted: Jul/21/2005 1:41 PM PST

Hello Ron this may sound crazy but what is a petoskey stone? I need a big stone of some kind to put in my birdbath? I just recently got a bird bath but so far have not seen any birds even got a small water decorations that runs on batteries and makes the water move a little bit but so far still have not seen any birds using it?Wonder what is wrong? I got it place near a new flower bed so they have some protection? Bye and thank you for all the info. it really help out a lot! Rita
judiatoo
Joined: 7/25/2002
Location: North Carolina, USA zone 7
Posts: 676
Posted: Jul/21/2005 2:25 PM PST

Ron, I didn't know you were on GG.
I get your newsletter evert week and enjoy it but when I've tried to write to you( like you suggested), It always comes back for some reason. I can't remember what it says but you never recieve my emails.
I always enjoy your newsletter and it's really helpful too.
fozbot3 blog photos
Joined: 1/18/2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 7893
Posted: Jul/21/2005 5:31 PM PST

A Petoskey stone I found one year in the Little Traverse Bay at Bayview,
Michigan.

a Petoskey stone is a type of fossil stone found only along the Great Lakes. they have been hunted so much by rock hounds they're becoming scarce and expensive to buy.
Papa2mykids
Joined: 1/25/2005
Location: Michigan
Posts: 105
Posted: Jul/03/2005 7:18 PM PST

BIRDBATHS.

Recently I have had several questions on and about birdbaths.

So........ I will address many of these questions again.

Now for you old timers......... you can still read this anyway.

Birdbaths come in many different shapes and styles. From a several
hundred dollar fancy one to something as simple as a terra cotta saucer.

All too often, the fancy ones are more of a hassle to clean and keep clean.

The sculpting and flowers are a magnet for trapping dirt and algae.

They can have the proper dimensions and work great as a bath and a
quick drink. Just remember they are extra work to maintain.

The width of the bowl isn't a problem.

A problem can occur when the bowl is too deep.

A proper depth for a birdbath is 1 1/2 to 2 inches deep.

Anything deeper without a raised flat surface (stone or brick) can be asking
for trouble in the way of drowning or birds unable to escape quickly.

It's true, I have a clay bowl 3 inches deep for my robins and bluejays.

I also have a raised flat surface in the middle.

A Petoskey stone I found one year in the Little Traverse Bay at Bayview,
Michigan.

It makes a nice added surface and a bit of a conversation piece for visitors
to see a Petoskey stone that size.

We also have a two-tiered concrete bath on the tree stump style.

This is a left over from the years we owned our wild bird specialty store.

It's very functional and gets used, but it takes more time and care to clean.

Still, I like it in my yard as an added feature.

The easiest one to clean and the one that gets used the most is a simple
two piece concrete birdbath.

The bowl is 1 1/2 inches deep and has a bit of a raised surface in the middle.

It is a neutral color and a plain surface.

My smaller birds as well as my mourning doves are at this bath all the time.

We need to fill it constantly it seems and it needs sanitizing more often.

THINK LIKE A BIRD.

I keep bringing that up don't I?

Thinking like a bird does not mean bird brained : )

Take notice as to where birds congregate for a bath, some playtime
and a drink.

A simple mud puddle or where the sprinklers puddle up on streets and
sidewalks.

Nature's way of water for birds.

Natural looking sources will help attract birds to your yard and birdbaths.

Earth tone colors.

Tan, brown, terra cotta, gray etc.

Are you getting the idea now?

Natural feeling and looking surfaces.

Stay away from pretty colors like bright blues and greens.

These bright colors are usually found on the glazed baths which as a
BIG NO, NO!

Oh sure, the glazed baths are nice and easy to clean, but how often are
they getting used?

A glazed bath is also an invitation to a potential death or two.

Birds need something to grip, something to hold onto and feel safe.

Too often a thirsty bird or a juvenile will fall in and drown.

Young birds are clueless to life's traps and dangers.

They see water or just a place to perch and may easily fall in.

Bigger birds like robins and smaller birds that may be perching, lose
grips as well.

A soaking wet bird is slow in flight and a poor surface impedes flight a
split second longer.

In nature, that fraction of a second can mean life or death.

Location, Location, Location.

A common phrase in business.

Also an important phrase when it comes to locating a birdbath.

Your bath(s) should be out in the open yet near protection.

An oxymoron?

Not really.

A bath should be placed in an opening or where nothing is growing, yet make
sure there is a shrub or a tree near by.

Birds need to find a safe place to perch while they preen themselves.

A wet bird is a slow bird.

All of my baths are within 15 feet of a tree or other protection.

If you plant anything around your bath, make sure it is a low growing plant.

Cats will hide in your garden and pounce on your unsuspecting birds if
givin the chance to do so.

Danger also comes from the sky, but birds will be looking for hawks

Also, place your source of water where you can enjoy the action.

Place it where it is easy for you to keep clean and filled.

I can't number the times I've seen an empty or filthy birdbath that is totally
ignored because it is located as a piece of yard art, not as a birdbath.

KEEP IT CLEAN

Well, you've got your birdbaths or other sources of water.

Now how do you keep it clean?

This isn't rocket science, yet many people neglect this task.

Maintaining is more efficient then having to do a total scrub all the time.

Yes, it's true a good cleaning is needed and you will know when it's needed.

Here are a couple of things that I have found that work for me.

Near dusk, if my bath needs filling, I will refill with fresh water and put a cap
or two of chlorine bleach into the water.

This keeps germs and algae down between cleanings and the chlorine
will have oxidized by morning.

My favorite stuff is the oxygen bleach products.

I use this on a lot of things.

I was reminded by a dear friend that this stuff foams up some.

My apologies for not making that all too clear.

I can use my Oxi-Boost any time of day and feel safe.

It sanitizes and kills algae, even when my birds take a sip.

They don't mind a little foaming action.

I sprinkle in just enough around the edges and a bit in the middle and let it
go to work.

Experiment on this one until you find what works for you.

I would guess a table spoon full.

I like this stuff because it is all natural, environment friendly, wont stain
my clothes or if spilled, kill my plants.

The only drawback is it leaves a white residue when water evaporates.

I can live with that, however.

Every now and then, a good scrubbing is needed.

Especially on baths that have grooves and patterns.

Even worse to clean, are the ones with stone embedded.

If using chlorine or another harsh cleaner, place your bowl on a neutral
surface like a driveway.

Let it soak for several minutes and then scrub.

Rinse and re-rinse.

Oxygen bleach can be done right where it stands without a problem.

I appreciate all the questions and inquirers.

Keep them coming and I will do my best to help out.

Whew.............. I'm pooped.

I hope this has been some help for you.

Hey............. until next time my friend.

Have a blessed week and I look forward to chatting with you all.

Remember to SMILE.

Ron
http://www.backyardbirdingtips.com/
sashweezy
Joined: 6/06/2005
Location: Ontario, Canada..Zone 4
Posts: 8401
Posted: Jul/22/2005 8:19 PM PST

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Originally posted by ladystressout
Hello Billlie good to see you are on the site! thank you for letting me know what a petoskey stone did not know what it was so to expensive for my birh bath?Bye Rita



Just take a walk and when you find a rock that looks like it would be the right size for your birdbath soak it in a bucket take it out and if it dries fairly quickly you will know that it is a non-porous rock and that's what you want.
ladystressout
Joined: 8/03/2003
Location: Georgetown,Ohio
Posts: 578
Posted: Jul/22/2005 7:55 PM PST

Hello Billlie good to see you are on the site! thank you for letting me know what a petoskey stone did not know what it was so to expensive for my birh bath?Bye Rita
ladystressout
Joined: 8/03/2003
Location: Georgetown,Ohio
Posts: 578
Posted: Jul/22/2005 9:21 PM PST

Hello Cathryn and you can bet your bottom dollar I will be keeping my eyes open for one as I go around town thank you for the info. but still have not seen any birds at my birdbath? Rita
karslinky blog photos
Joined: 8/28/2004
Location: Upstate New York
Posts: 1197
Posted: Oct/08/2005 8:38 PM PST

Ron - I have wondered why birds have not been using my birdbath and you have answered! I bought a nice brown GLAZED saucer that was meant to be used under a ceramic pot - I thought I'd save myself some money (have you seen bird bath prices lately??) and placed it in a low plant stand out in the yard. But I have NEVER seen a bird in there. Next year I'll go out and get a proper BIRD'S bath and see if it works!
cazimere photos
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Posts: 2064
Posted: Oct/20/2005 5:10 PM PST

I got tired of birdbaths corroding and breaking. Got myself a nice Glazed saucer and put a small perch beside it for the little birds to land on and they were using it the very first day ! Never had any problems.
judiatoo
Joined: 7/25/2002
Location: North Carolina, USA zone 7
Posts: 676
Posted: Oct/26/2005 6:12 PM PST

That's a neat idea, Caz.
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