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Rashell blog photos
Joined: 9/17/2007
Location: Acton, Ca
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Posted: Aug/05/2010 9:37 PM PST

yikes, does this mean i'm late for cucumber and beans too?
Rashell blog photos
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Posted: Aug/06/2010 7:58 PM PST

pulled out eggplants & 100 sweet tomato plants. peppers and roma tomato still growing so I'll leave them.

my watermelon and cantaloup plants are doing good so far.
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Joined: 4/29/2008
Location: Westlake, La
Posts: 9805
Posted: Aug/07/2010 7:01 AM PST

I'd plant them anyway, Rashell. One thing is certain-if you don't plant any, you won't get any! I will plant beans in late August, and maybe some squash again. I won't plant my real winter garden until late Sept. or early Oct. Most cold weather veg. can take a light frost- and some even a light freeze. I don't know much about carrots-I tried growing some last year for the first time in a long time, and they were extremely slow, but I am going to try again!
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Joined: 9/17/2007
Location: Acton, Ca
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Posted: Aug/07/2010 11:59 AM PST

I've grown carrots too only i had to pull them out before maturity. Either we built the famous greenhouse, the one i could never use , over them or it was some other hardscape project, can't remember.

all i did was throw a package of seeds all over this one area and they grew on their own. you are right, i'll try again.
Rashell blog photos
Joined: 9/17/2007
Location: Acton, Ca
Posts: 4219
Posted: Aug/07/2010 12:13 PM PST

Found GG's article again, finally!

How to Grow Fall Vegetables

A fall garden can not only extend your vegetable harvest season, but it can also allow for better-quality crops when growing certain vegetables that enjoy cooler weather as they mature. Fall vegetables include broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbages, fava beans, cauliflower, carrots, parsnips, beets, rutabagas and globe onions, as well as spinach and lettuces. The best planting time for a fall garden is in July or August. Depending on your region's climate, the planting date may be later or earlier to allow the fall vegetables to mature and harvest to occur before the first hard, killing frost.

Step 1
Remove any summer crop remnants left in your garden, as well as any weeds or grasses. Loosen the soil to a depth of at least 8 inches, using a pitchfork or rototiller.

Step 2
Mix into the garden soil a granular 10-10-10 NPK (nitrogen-phosphorus-potassium) fertilizer at a rate of 1 to 2 lbs. per 100 square feet. If you fertilized your summer garden heavily, you don't need to add this fertilizer to the soil before planting.

Step 3
Dig 4-inch-deep furrows into the soil, spaced about 1 foot apart. Plant the fall vegetable seeds 1½ to 2 times deeper than the instructions on the seed package recommend for spring planting. Spread potting soil or vermiculite over the seeds.

Step 4
Water your fall vegetable seeds daily to keep the soil thoroughly moistened at all times until germination. After the seeds germinate, water the fall vegetable seedlings deeply once or twice each week to supplement rainfall and provide about 1 inch of water per week.

Step 5
Spread 1 inch of aged manure or a side-dress application of a high-nitrogen fertilizer after the fall vegetables begin to grow, at three weeks and again at six weeks.

Read more: How to Grow Fall Vegetables | Garden Guides http://www.gardenguides.com/95545-grow-fall-vegeta bles.html#ixzz0vwtLyvaf
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Joined: 9/17/2007
Location: Acton, Ca
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Posted: Aug/09/2010 8:52 PM PST

I read a lot about cabbage today! Pretty neat when you dig real deep into this gardening thing. I know I'm making this bigger than it is but the research part of gardening is fun for me too.

A lot of my information is from my Rodale’s complete Guide to Organic Gardening book. Believe it or not I’ve had the book for a long time but this is the first time I did more than just skim through it!

Here is the information I’ve collected

Cabbage (Brassica Oleracea)
Cool season vegetable
Plant in full sun
P.H. 6.0 & 6.8

For spring planting - cabbage likes lighter sandier soil
For fall planting - cabbage likes clay soil

Weather Temps for cabbage = 40 and 70 degrees
It has shallow roots
NO fluctuation of soil moisture after head have formed - or else, you'll get a split heads!
No overhead sprinklers

Do not plant In same area (or area where veggies have been for past 3 years) as broccoli, wild mustard, cauliflower, brussels sprouts or kale.

Celery is my choice of a companion plant (once I know more about it of course). companion plant to keep flea beetles away is Tomato.


Insects =
Cabbage Looper
Control = handpick larvae, use garlic oil or attract wasps

Cabbage Maggot
Control = Row Covers or plant seedlings in slit of tar paper (this keeps flies from laying eggs near the roots). You can also use sticky board trap or Water trap (Bright yellow pan with water & some dish soap). I’m not going to use sticky board or water trap because I don’t want bees and wasps to get trapped.

According to package instructions I should “start seed indoors, 6 to 8 weeks before frost“ & frost date I was going by is October 27. According to this site http://www.idcide.com/weather/ca/acton.htm normal temps of 70-40s is from late September to December.

So I think the best time to sow seeds indoor would be beginning of next week then I can transfer seedling into ground when the temps are right!


PS. I also read we should soak the seeds in 122F deg. for 25 minutes but you may "damage seed viability" by doing this. Soaking starts the germination so you'll have to sow once you take the seeds out of the water.

Sheesh, hope I got this all right.
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Joined: 9/17/2007
Location: Acton, Ca
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Posted: Aug/09/2010 11:33 PM PST

Celery 100 to 120 days to harvest! Just read if temps go below 55 we have to protect celery.

seeds - 10 weeks indoor, hardening off time 10 days then we transplant in ground!

If i start the seeds indoor tomorrow, late october the plants should be transplanted in garden. mid or late november will be about 100 days. I think it will be too cold but I'll probably still start some seeds for practice.

Then try again around april.
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Joined: 8/18/2007
Location: Omaha
Posts: 330
Posted: Aug/10/2010 6:35 AM PST

All I planted for fall was broccoli, romaine, and snow peas. However, I'm keeping my tomatoes, cucumbers and peppers 'till frost. Also, I planted pumpkins this spring to mature this fall. I would have planted bush beans, but I ran out of seeds. Bush beans would be great to plant seeds in the ground (50 days to maturity)
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Joined: 4/29/2008
Location: Westlake, La
Posts: 9805
Posted: Aug/10/2010 7:27 PM PST

Bussete, your planting list looks like mine! I don't plant until later, though, still too hot here. I do plant lettuce (not romaine, and I surely like cabbage!). My peppers, tomatoes that have been cut back, etc, will last until frost (November for me). I will be putting up some peppers this weekend-I love bell peppers put up with hot peppers-so good with rice & gravy or gumbo in the winter!

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Joined: 8/18/2007
Location: Omaha
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Posted: Aug/10/2010 10:19 PM PST

Carolyn, I wish my bells would be as productive as my ceyennes or my jalopenios. I have four bell pepper plants and three ceyenne plants. I get one or two a week from the bell peppers and I get 5 dozen from the hot peppers. My frost date is October 1-15.
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