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Black spot 2nd year in a row. Thinking of ditches roses for good.

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ShawnH photos
Joined: 5/21/2008
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 30
Posted: May/28/2008 6:22 PM PST

This year may be the last time I try to get this darn blasted blackspot under control. I know it came from a bush that someone gave me, though I didn't realize it at the time. Now my whole rose garden is affected. Out of 5 bushes, one has died, one is completely defoliated, and three have had all the diseased lower leaves removed. I'm thinking of scrapping the whole thing and planting something else. The warm winter we had may have made the problem worse. They never lost their leaves and started blooming in March.

Is it possible to clear the whole bed and start with new roses? I'm scared that it's in the soil and will attack again.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.
gardendude blog photos
Joined: 4/08/2008
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 166
Posted: May/28/2008 8:34 PM PST

Maybe give some of those "Knockout" roses a try. They were developed for low maintenance and resistance to black spot and powdery mildew.
fairygarden blog photos
Joined: 3/17/2008
Location: SC
Posts: 1425
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Posted: May/28/2008 9:23 PM PST

We use fungicide on ours. Even so, some roses are just bound to get blackspot. I am trying a carpet rose this year. They are suppose to be resistant.
karslinky blog photos
Joined: 8/28/2004
Location: Upstate New York
Posts: 768
Posted: May/29/2008 10:50 AM PST

THe fungus definitely can get in the soil, so unless you can move the roses, that location may be the soil equivalent of 'tyhpoid mary'. I have started using RosePharm, an organic spray of herbal oils that doesn't necessarily kill the spores but prevents their spread. Any soap spray solution might do the same thing. Certainly, getting BS resistant bushes helps, but we all love those tender hybrid teas, don't we? If you are dedicated to trying to save your existing plants, keep pruning affected limbs, pick off and discard (NOT in the compost) affected leaves, and remove dead leaves from the ground. I am not aware of any treatment for the soil - maybe someone will stop by with an idea there. Good luck - I know how hard it is to see your roses die - I've lost two Barbra Streisands and refuse to buy another, as much as I love that rose!
ShawnH photos
Joined: 5/21/2008
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 30
Posted: May/30/2008 10:30 AM PST

Thanks for the input, guys. I'll keep it all in mind.
Gabbysgarden blog photos
Joined: 5/28/2008
Location: Manchester, MA
Posts: 64
Posted: Jun/07/2008 4:25 AM PST

I am wondering if something called micro-riser will improve the soil and help to rid the soil of the problem. I think that it is sort of a pro-biotic for the soil. I actually have such poor soil that I use it just to improve conditions.
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Joined: 6/02/2006
Location: SW Georgia
Posts: 393
Posted: Jun/16/2008 2:23 AM PST

Knockouts are a good choice an there are several other choices of Buck roses to choose from. Knockouts come in yellow, cherry red, double red, rainbow an pink. Also think about Heirloom roses, they have stood the test of time. I am assuming you have all Hybrid Teas here. I've never had any luck with the "new" roses either, an refused to grow them because of all their problems, then I discovered the oldies. Just a thought.
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