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Novice
Joined: 7/28/2006
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Posted: Jul/28/2006 7:05 PM PST

Hey folks, I'm new around here but not to the forum format.

I'm in New England and the lawn in my new house has lots of patches of crabgrass as well as a lot of differen't types of grasses mixed together. Of course they all have different tones to them and they grow at differen't rates.

It was obvioustly neglected for quite some time. We do have a sprinkler system though and it works pretty good.

I plan on overseeding once the crabgrass dies. I'd like to dig the crabgrass up. Once it's dead and easy to recognize, how deep do I have to dig to get it completly?

Any ideas?

Thanks,
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Abhoth
Joined: 7/11/2004
Location: Eastern Washington (Zone 5)
Posts: 94
Posted: Jul/28/2006 7:15 PM PST

To be quite honest I wouldn't bother ... crabgrass is an annual so once it's dead it's dead. All new crabgrasses the following year come from seed so your best bet is "Scotts fertilizer with stops" in the spring that prevents it from germinating.
GardenBear
Joined: 4/27/2005
Location: Ma.
Posts: 381
Posted: Jul/29/2006 4:16 AM PST

living in Ma I'v never had good luck with getting rid of crab grass if your lucky no one with in 5 miles has any the seed float on the wind or a sweet bird will bring you seeds its hard to get rid of the only thing I know of that will keep it from growing is clover my back yard is all clover and no crab grass the front yard is next to be replanted with clover
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Kale
Joined: 11/02/2002
Location: Greenhouse Mi.
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Posted: Jul/30/2006 12:37 AM PST

Hummm... Which Clover GardenBear?

Kale
GardenBear
Joined: 4/27/2005
Location: Ma.
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Posted: Jul/30/2006 3:32 AM PST

Hi ya Kale
I planted dutch white clover you may have to order it if your garden center doesn't carry it I love the smell of it when its just been cut
[URL="http://versicolor.ca/lawns/docs/clover.html" ]http://versicolor.ca/lawns/docs/clover.html[/URL]

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Posted: Jul/30/2006 9:39 PM PST

Garden Bear, do you have some pics of your clover lawn? What has been your experience with it?
Kale
Joined: 11/02/2002
Location: Greenhouse Mi.
Posts: 1465
Posted: Jul/31/2006 1:51 AM PST

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Originally posted by Garden Bear
Hi ya Kale
I planted dutch white clover you may have to order it if your garden center doesn't carry it I love the smell of it when its just been cut
[URL="http://versicolor.ca/lawns/docs/clover.html" ]http://versicolor.ca/lawns/docs/clover.html[/URL]
Garden Bear



Thank you GardenBear
I think I have it along with the yellow flowering one, only thing is I can't mow my grounds...and cant stand mowing anyway*LOL I use a big clipping scissor
Humm, that is funny.. That someone actually has it and it is sold for that purpose...One of my neighbors has lots of white clover and I told her it looks better then grass why not leave it so she is it's very nice...different tickles me even more


Have a great walk on your clover Much better then grass to me


Kale
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Posted: Aug/03/2006 11:17 PM PST

[COLOR="Red"]I saw a "Scotts" lawn guy working on somebodys lawn today. I immediatly pulled over and talked with him for a bit about my crab grass issues.

He said that the crabgrass can be physically removed. He showed me by removing a clump on this guys lawn. He said to grab the clump and use a small digging tool to dig down about 2 inches and then remove the entire crabgrass, roots and all.

He mentioned that I should replace the void with a mixture of grass seed, dirt and fertalizer.

He said a heavy dose of pre emergent crab grass preventer should do the trick for next year.

I'm going to remove as much crabgrass as possible and then aerate, and reseed this fall.

I threw the guy 5 bucks and told him to get an ice coffee on me![/COLOR]
Whitmore1
Joined: 4/02/2002
Location: Manistee County, MI, USA
Posts: 496
Posted: Aug/04/2006 12:59 PM PST

Crabgrass is easy to prevent. As mentioned it is an annual grass which dies after one growing season. Any lawn fertilizer w/crabgrass preventer will work if it is applied in the spring before the dandilions bloom. The preventer prevents (logical hey?.........:broccoli: ) the crabgrass seed from blooming.

You can pull and reseed this fall, but that won't do anything about the uncounted crabgrass seeds that will be left behind. You'll still have to apply the preventer in the spring.

Crabgrass seed needs plenty of sunlight in order to germinate. By growing thick, lush turfgrass you offer some shade. This will slow down germination as well, but won't be a cure-all.

Another tip is to let your grass grow a bit longer. This to will offer shading for the crabgrass seeds.
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Posted: Aug/04/2006 5:52 PM PST

[COLOR="Red"]Thanks for the tips! I'm gonna have a nice lawn next year if it kills me. I wish we had an emoticon of a little choking crabgrass! [/COLOR]
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