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Perennials for full shade

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Joined: 7/26/2006
Location: Lake Champlain Valley
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Posted: Aug/11/2006 1:36 PM PST

Which one is the walnut tree? Is it the big tree in the foreground or the background? I would love to have that kind of shade in my backyard. All my shade is in the frontyard or way in the backyard, which is essentially the woods. The edge of this wooded area is where I would like to plant stuff.
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Posted: Aug/11/2006 3:03 PM PST

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Originally posted by bensmom98
Junco-
Your shade gardens sound magnificient!! My problem (I think) is going to be alot of little roots in the soil making it really hard to dig. Do you have that problem? Do you think I could get around it by planting little plants so I don't need big holes, and then adding a layer of compost or loam?
Thanks


I've thought of that in the past too, Bensmom. The smaller plants' roots can then find their own way through the tree roots and soil. I was talking to a nurseryman about planting a shrub near trees and he said you can cut through roots without harming the tree. How large of a root, I don't know. So I'd ask this question in the tree thread, where Treeman will see it. Title it "Strawberry Shortcake in Exchange for Tree Advice."
lovetheflowers
Joined: 6/06/2002
Location: Delaware Zone 7
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Posted: Aug/11/2006 4:34 PM PST

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Originally posted by bensmom98
Which one is the walnut tree? Is it the big tree in the foreground or the background? I would love to have that kind of shade in my backyard. All my shade is in the frontyard or way in the backyard, which is essentially the woods. The edge of this wooded area is where I would like to plant stuff.

There are 7 walnut trees. The one straight ahead, in the back (as far as you can see) is 200 years old and is the mother tree. There are six others lined up on the left side of the yard...(not all in picture) and that is a walnut tree up above with the long limbs/branches. The townspeople told me all about the history of the trees.
Jade
Joined: 6/06/2002
Location: southwestern Ontario
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Posted: Aug/11/2006 10:44 PM PST

Here is some info that I found for you about what will tolerate juglone. We have a two page sheet at work too, I will check it out and see if I can fine some more tolerant plants for you. Juglone is the chemical that is given off by the black walnuts.
Landscape plants: red cedar; crabapple*; elm; winged euonymus; forsythia; hawthorn; hemlock; hickories; black locust; most maples; oaks; autumn olive; pachysandra; pawpaw; persimmon; wild rose; sycamore; most viburnums; Virginia creeper
Flowers & herbaceous plants: bluebells; Kentucky bluegrass; daffodil; daylily; ferns; fescue; iris; Jack-in-the-pulpit; liriope; narcissus; phlox; poison ivy; Shasta daisy; trillium
lovetheflowers
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Posted: Aug/12/2006 12:59 AM PST

I must have accidently planted all the stuff that LOVE juglone
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Posted: Aug/12/2006 1:08 AM PST

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Originally posted by sweetlebee
I've thought of that in the past too, Bensmom. The smaller plants' roots can then find their own way through the tree roots and soil. I was talking to a nurseryman about planting a shrub near trees and he said you can cut through roots without harming the tree. How large of a root, I don't know. So I'd ask this question in the tree thread, where Treeman will see it. Title it "Strawberry Shortcake in Exchange for Tree Advice."



Thanks Sweetle-
I will do that. I will not however make the promise of strawberry shortcake in case I have to follow through.
Jade
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Location: southwestern Ontario
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Posted: Aug/12/2006 1:34 AM PST

I love that they put poisen ivy on that list, ha.
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Posted: Aug/12/2006 2:42 PM PST

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Originally posted by Jade
I love that they put poisen ivy on that list, ha.



Exactly what I want in my garden!!!!
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Location: NE Ohio, deck chuckin' fool
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Posted: Apr/15/2007 7:39 PM PST

I have Joe Pye Weed and New England Asters growing wild in my back yard in almost total shade. They get from about 3 to 6 feet tall. There's also a couple eastern cedars that are about 15 years old that have stayed very small --not even knee high- and they're in a lot of shade under maples. I'd be careful with those though because the sister of those is way over my head where I transplanted it.
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Posted: Apr/16/2007 6:21 AM PST

Huh. I always thought Joe Pye Weed liked full sun.
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