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Delphiniums/Foxglove

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JanetK
Joined: 6/09/2006
Location: Lincoln Park, Mich.
Posts: 5
Posted: Jun/09/2006 6:30 PM PST

For the last several years I have purchased nice gallon-size pots of delphinium and lupines. Neither ever come back in my garden. I successfully grow phlox, lillies of all kinds, peonies, hosta, campanula, roses, etc. Any ideas why these particular flowers don't like me? Thanks.

Janet K.

Edited, the thread name should obviously be delphinium/lupine.
sashweezy
Joined: 6/06/2005
Location: Ontario, Canada..Zone 4
Posts: 8401
Posted: Jun/09/2006 6:35 PM PST

I find that I have great luck with blue delphiniums but not white and I can't grow lupins either. Some plants are just not meant to be for me either so don't feel bad.
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Joined: 8/14/2002
Location: Altoona, Iowa (near Des Moines)
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Posted: Jun/09/2006 6:41 PM PST

I have great luck with the white delphiniums but the blue ones only survive. Lupines are a bi-annual so if you buy them ready to bloom they will not return.
Medic4850
Joined: 5/31/2006
Location: Clymer, New York
Posts: 2
Posted: Jun/10/2006 12:23 AM PST

What zone are you in? I'm in 4 and I have great lupines. you might have to give them a year to adjust.
Mainegal
Joined: 3/30/2002
Location: Southern Maine Zone4/5
Posts: 2550
Posted: Jun/10/2006 12:50 AM PST

I'm in zone 5 and my lupines do good if they don't get eaten. I let them go to seed and the ones I don't harvest come up the next yr. I took a bunch of seeds and thru them around my side garden last fall and I have a bunch of seedlings up this yr if they don't all rot from all the rain. They won't bloom this yr but should be nice for next yr. Mine always seem to come back. I had a clump out back that I dug up from grammie's house that lasted for 5+ yrs, now there is just a small plant there, it's grown up all around it with wild raspberries
JanetK
Joined: 6/09/2006
Location: Lincoln Park, Mich.
Posts: 5
Posted: Jun/10/2006 12:57 AM PST

I'm Zone 6. We have kind of heavy soil, but have mixed in lots of black topsoil.
flowerpower
Joined: 1/14/2003
Location: Catskill Mtns NY Zone 4
Posts: 277
Posted: Jun/11/2006 10:11 AM PST

MamaBear, I have no idea what a "bi-annual" is. Wouldn't that mean it blooms 2 times per year? Lupine is a short-lived perennial, not a biennial. They only live 4-5 yrs. It's better to direct sow seed. Lupine has a very long taproot and resents transplanting
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Location: Altoona, Iowa (near Des Moines)
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Posted: Jun/11/2006 4:03 PM PST

A bi-annual grows it leaves the first year, blooms the second year and then dies leaving the seeds it dropped to continue the cycle.
sashweezy
Joined: 6/06/2005
Location: Ontario, Canada..Zone 4
Posts: 8401
Posted: Jun/11/2006 5:44 PM PST

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Originally posted by MamaBearBSA
I have great luck with the white delphiniums but the blue ones only survive. Lupines are a bi-annual so if you buy them ready to bloom they will not return.


Now what's with that? We are total opposites with the delphiniums. I wonder if it's a zone thing and the blue like a cooler climate as I'm in zone 4? I don't know why I have problems with lupins as they grow wild in one area in town. They come up every year through the tall grass and give a great show but they don't like my garden..........maybe I'm just too good to them.
Whitmore1
Joined: 4/02/2002
Location: Manistee County, MI, USA
Posts: 496
Posted: Jun/12/2006 6:33 AM PST

MamaB,
Lupines are perennial. The author of the thread titled it "Delphiniums and Foxglove" by mistake. Foxglove are indeed biennials (they grow, flower and produce seeds over a two year period), but lupine are perennial.

There are some perennial foxglove that have been developed over the past ten years, but they are not nearly as "showy" as the biennial varieties.
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