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Posted: May/08/2006 12:56 AM PST
Ok. I have been working all weekend on the backyard gardens. There are several plants that need to at least be moved (if not pulled completely). Unfortunately, I don't know what they are, so I don't know if I should toss them or move them to another location.  Any help would be appreciated. The leaves on the first plant look like my columbines, but they have small yellow flowers. The second looked a little like some kind of mint to me, but I broke some off and it doesn't have a minty smell. There are lots of the second and third plants, so I fear they may be some sort of invasive weed...crossing my fingers... Attachments:    |
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Posted: May/08/2006 3:03 AM PST
The first one is a columbine - a wild form, and quite pretty I think (I love columbines), but it's your garden/choice. Please note, I'm not a plant expert and the following is my opinion only: The second looks like one of the campanula family, and not a good one if it's the one I'm thinking of. Some campanulas are perfectly well behaved, and others will take over your garden before you can say "Jack Robinson". Here's a [URL="http://www.gardenopus.com/images/DSC02355.JP G"]pic[/URL] I found - notice the 'fuzzy' underside to the leaves and stem. You might want to check your plant for that and have someone (or many) else to verify my suggestion. but if it is a clustered bellflower be very careful and at the [I][B]very least [/B][/I]dig up all of it you can find and plant it in a 1 gallon pot with the bottom cut out to contain the runners. Some places don't list this as invasive, but I know it is where I live and from past experience. The flowers are stunning, but be really careful. (If that's what it is, I'd rip it out in a second. You'll be pulling up shoots for the next couple of years, but it's worth it.) (I'm actually fighting a cousin the [URL="http://www.sfn.saskatoon.sk.ca/science/splep /creeping_bellflower.html"]creeping bellflower [/URL]at the moment - they're coming in from my neighbour's, despite my putting edging under the fence to stop the runners.) I'm not sure what the third one is. |
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Posted: May/08/2006 3:10 AM PST
The 3nd looks like some cultivar of Perilla The 3rd looks like a Vinca minor |
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Posted: May/08/2006 10:12 AM PST
3rd one looks like tall phlox, just guessing as i really don't know |
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Posted: May/08/2006 2:35 PM PST
I say phlox for the third too. |
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Posted: May/08/2006 5:25 PM PST
R33 - I do have some wild "Canadian" columbine (quite a bit, actually) but it just has the red flowers with a yellow center. I have not seen these little yellow flowers on any of them. I also don't remember the yellow flowers last year, I just thought this plant didn't bloom. Do you think this is a different type of wild columbine? Mainegal - I didn't realize phlox came in a tall variety! I have a patch of phlox in the front garden but didn't even think that was a possibility for such a tall plant. I will look into it. |
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Posted: May/08/2006 7:28 PM PST
As far as "is it worth keeping?" That is your call. If you like it, keep it. If not, don't. The definition of a weed is that it is just an unwanted flower. If you want it, it is no longer a weed. I know people in Iowa (near the Amanas) that raise farms of dandelions as food crops. You don't want to spray weed killer in those fields. LOL |
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Posted: May/08/2006 8:18 PM PST
the 2nd is Adenophora Lilifolia (lady bells) and is in the campanulea family and is very invasive. the seeds can live in the ground 10 years. more come up when you disturbe the soil. Keep digging them out - they are easy to up root - and cut the flowers off so there are no more seeds. the 3rd looks like tall garden phlox to me too. :-) |
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Posted: May/08/2006 8:36 PM PST
Quote: Originally posted by lyle14 R33 - I do have some wild "Canadian" columbine (quite a bit, actually) but it just has the red flowers with a yellow center. I have not seen these little yellow flowers on any of them. I also don't remember the yellow flowers last year, I just thought this plant didn't bloom. Do you think this is a different type of wild columbine?No, my mistake. :o I've seen those flowers, alongside columbine when hiking in the mountains and just assumed it to be a different form of wild columbine. But after checking in my Plants of the Rocky Mountains book, I found out it's a meadow rue (Thalictrum). Here are some other pics, links and sites if you're interested. 1. [URL="http://www.canadianbiodiversity.mcgill.ca/en glish/species/plants/plantpages/tha_spa.htm"]leave s[/URL] 2.[URL="http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_quer y?query_src=photos_browseimgs_plant_com&enlarge=62 49+3022+3948+0027"] leaves and flowers[/URL] 3. [URL="http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query? query_src=photos_browseimgs_plant_com&enlarge=6249 +3022+3948+0018"]more leaves and flowers[/URL] 4. [URL="http://calphotos.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query? stat=BROWSE_IMG&query_src=photos_browseimgs_plant_ com&where-genre=Plant&where-namesoup=Fewflower+Mea dowrue&rel-namesoup=matchphrase"]and more[/URL]  5. scroll down a little: [URL="http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http:/ /plants.chebucto.biz/fleurs/F0814.JPG&imgrefurl=ht tp://plants.chebucto.biz/plants/T.html&h=360&w=360 &sz=75&tbnid=6-JwhR8oEr2V8M:&tbnh=117&tbnw=117&hl= en&start=3&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfew%2Bflowered%2Bmea dow%2Brue%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN" ]I've never met a meadow rue I didn't like.[/URL] 6. [URL="http://www.hillkeep.ca/per%20thalictrum.htm" ]Other varieties.[/URL] I should have known from the pendulous flowers, as I grow [URL="http://www.tanglycottage.com/FavouritePlants /FavouriteWebGalleryAfter/pages/thalictrum%20'hewi tt's%20double'.htm"]this[/URL] form in my garden (and love it, it's a beaut!) :o Sorry about my mix-up. I recognise things visually, but names often escape me.
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Posted: May/09/2006 1:54 AM PST
Ok. I definately have some MEADOW RUE #1 (Thanks R33). I checked out the lady bells, and I know I had an invasion of those flowers last year. Do they really start out looking like the above pic? I never would have guessed that those tall purple flowers came from that. If they really are ladybells I will try to rip out every piece I can find...they took over the area last year! I can't tell for sure on the 3rd one, but since so many folks think it is phlox I will keep some and see if it blooms. Some tall phlox will be nice. Thanks again everyone! 
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