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Goanna blog
Joined: 4/16/2005
Location: NYC area
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Posted: Apr/14/2006 3:28 AM PST

Last year I planted 3 Jalapeno Plants in the same bed as some Cantalope Plants. I also had Endive growing in that bed as well but I harvested that early.

Once I had a decent amount of Jalapenos grown I tried using them and they were the hotest peppers I ever tasted, lol. They were too hot to enjoy. They also stayed small, none really got over an inch long.

As for the Cantalopes, they were the most bitter, unsweet fruits ever! I tried them a couple of times and they were disgusting, I wound up pulling the plants and throwing them into the compost bin!

Was this because the 2 shouldnt have been planted so close together? Are there certain plants that shouldnt be grown alongside pepper plants? This year just to be safe I am just going to grow my "False Alarm" jalapenos (from Burpee) and some Baby Belle's in the same bed. Maybe I'll throw some endive in as well since it didnt seem to harm anything last year, but I definitly wont be mixing any other fruits in the pepper bed!
Davlyn
Joined: 8/10/2005
Location: Pike, NH 03780
Posts: 1001
Posted: Apr/15/2006 12:07 AM PST

Goanna,
there is a thread for peppers... "can't grow peppers"..... May be a better place to share & get your answers. I am glad I saw this one of yours....I have a hard time with green peppers. But the hot ones I do ok with.. Could be better tho I'm sure.... Hey, good for U....
tomatoman223
Joined: 3/24/2005
Location: Il-5b
Posts: 389
Posted: Apr/15/2006 4:19 AM PST

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Originally posted by Goanna
Last year I planted 3 Jalapeno Plants in the same bed as some Cantalope Plants. I also had Endive growing in that bed as well but I harvested that early.

Once I had a decent amount of Jalapenos grown I tried using them and they were the hotest peppers I ever tasted, lol. They were too hot to enjoy. They also stayed small, none really got over an inch long.

As for the Cantalopes, they were the most bitter, unsweet fruits ever! I tried them a couple of times and they were disgusting, I wound up pulling the plants and throwing them into the compost bin!

Was this because the 2 shouldnt have been planted so close together? Are there certain plants that shouldnt be grown alongside pepper plants? This year just to be safe I am just going to grow my "False Alarm" jalapenos (from Burpee) and some Baby Belle's in the same bed. Maybe I'll throw some endive in as well since it didnt seem to harm anything last year, but I definitly wont be mixing any other fruits in the pepper bed!


That can't be the problem,goanna.The genetics are already there for whatever you plant from seed,and even if there is a cross it won't show up unless you save seed and plant again next year.And,as an aside,peppers and cantalope can't cross because they are not the same plant species.

I've heard people say that they planted their cuks and squash too close together and ended up with a squash that looked and tasted like a combo of both....it just doesn't work that way

I'm just wondering if your jalapeno's were the real deal?
Goanna blog
Joined: 4/16/2005
Location: NYC area
Posts: 76
Posted: Apr/15/2006 3:00 PM PST

I wasnt thinking along the lines of a genetic cross.

I was thinking maybe the pepper plants produce capsaicin and leech it into the soil, or perhaps the peppers that ripen and fall into the soil release capsaicin then the cantalope plant picks it up?

Also sometimes on the back of a seed packet you'll see things like "Plant this near [specific plant names here]" and "Do Not Plant Near [specific plant name here]" and the plants listed are not always related. For Example, Plant Basil near Tomatoes, etc.
DanS blog
Joined: 3/23/2005
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Posted: Apr/15/2006 10:25 PM PST

Nope this isnt the cause, I am thinking this is a soil issue. I have had similar bitter taste with lettuce that i tried growing in containers, yet seed from same pack in garden was delic.

As for the peppers small size can be caused by many things, including soild mentioned above, but also short growing season, lack of water and just tooo many flowers/pods "but this is due to soil nutrition as well" First step id take is doing soil test and amending as needed.

But in end dont be discouraged we all have years plants that dont do so well for us one year yet another do great. My Japs "along with most others" do not get as large as in the grocery, this is due to 2 things hybrids grown by producers and the poundage of petrochemical fetalizer dumped on their fields for mass produce "both of which lower quality of flavor"
Kozykitten
Joined: 8/18/2005
Location: Missouri
Posts: 1076
Posted: Apr/16/2006 1:26 AM PST

It would have to be some other issue, my jalepeno plants were next to my melons last year and both were great!
Mommaofthree
Joined: 1/24/2006
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Posted: Apr/21/2006 11:12 PM PST

I have three sweet peppers and 3 jalepeno pepper plants in containers. They just haven't grown much at all AND the bottom leaves are starting to turn yellow. I can't make heads or tails of it. We had a bit of cold weather right after I planted them but for at least two weeks, we have had gorgeous weather. Any suggestions?
Briarwoods photos
Joined: 3/16/2006
Location: Let's Go Mets!!
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Posted: Apr/22/2006 11:35 AM PST

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Originally posted by Mommaofthree
I have three sweet peppers and 3 jalepeno pepper plants in containers. They just haven't grown much at all AND the bottom leaves are starting to turn yellow. I can't make heads or tails of it. We had a bit of cold weather right after I planted them but for at least two weeks, we have had gorgeous weather. Any suggestions?


Peppers are slow growers. Did you harden them off before planting them outside? Peppers like it real warm as well. What leaves are yellow? The first ones they had?
Mommaofthree
Joined: 1/24/2006
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Posted: Apr/23/2006 7:18 PM PST

Since I am so new at vegetable gardening Briarwoods, I haven't a clue to what "harden them off" means! LOL! Yes, the leaves that are turning yellow are the first ones they had. They were in a six pack from a local store and I transplanted them about four weeks ago. THey do seem to be growing new leaves out of the tops.
ArcticQueen
Joined: 7/25/2002
Location: Alaska
Posts: 229
Posted: Apr/24/2006 8:54 AM PST

Harden them off means you are supposed to gradually introduce your plants to the outdoors. Maybe you take the babies and set them outside in a sheltered area for a couple of hours, then back in the house for several days. Then you get brave and leave them in the sheltered area all day and bring them in at night. Then perhaps you put them in a less sheltered area for half the day and shelter the rest. And so on until they are strong.

The reason for this is that the sun can burn them, the rain is stronger than your gentle watering, the wind can whip them and exposure can out and out kill them, etc.
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